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    Basic program to shut off complete system.

    Good evening All,

    The inevitable happened, I flooded my floor due to a snail clogging my refugium return. I have a stand alone refugium, and knew this would happen eventually.

    Wet floors build character right? lol Well, at least that's what I keep telling myself.

    To add insult to injury, I purchase a BOB and a float switch, and just haven't had time to jump on here and ask for "Help".

    Well, here I am asking for help.

    I want to install the float switch in the fuge, and program it to shut everything off IE. Chiller pump, Skimmer pump, Dosing pumps, Return pump, and keep on my heater which is controlled by my APEX, and keep my power heads on, and also send me a alert?

    Anybody "Please"

    Thanks,
    All Wet-

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    Orient the float such that up shows open and down shows closed. Since I dont know what you named your switch, Im gonna call it HighSw. Replace that name with whatever yours is called or rename your float to match. Add this line to anything you want to turn off when there is a high water level.

    If HighSw OPEN Then OFF


    In your email alarm, add the line

    If HighSw OPEN Then ON

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    Consider the audible alarm as well if this happens in the middle of the night.
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    Thank you very much Zombie.

    I'm assuming when I add the code If HighSw OPEN Then OFF to each componnet I slide then to AUTO?

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    Good Idea Aquamanic- Thank you very much..

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    AUTO is the only way an outlet will read its program - otherwise it's always ON or always OFF.
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    Thank you Aquamanic- Great Idea

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    I figured, just wanted to make sure, and not assume if there was something I'm missing.

    Thank you agian, Aquamanic- You're both a tremendous resource!

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    Quote Originally Posted by backeast View Post
    Thank you very much Zombie.

    I'm assuming when I add the code If HighSw OPEN Then OFF to each componnet I slide then to AUTO?

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    Good Idea Aquamanic- Thank you very much..
    They must be in Auto as aquamaniac pointed out. To expand a little, if you have outlets that you currently have the slider to ON right now, the code for those with the switch statement would need to be.

    Fallback ON
    Set ON
    If HighSw OPEN Then OFF

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    Good evening Zombie,

    My float switch is reading Down is open, and Up is closed. I cannot get it to read in reverse as you suggest?
    What am I missing. I even reversed the wires, and of course same results.
    I purchased a standard float switch, so I'm somewhat confused.
    I've also noticed the response time to the switch is very slow.

    My other question is; Where would I add the code in my dosing code;
    Fallback OFF
    OSC 000:00/008:23/051:37 Then ON
    If Time 17:00 to 03:59 Then OFF
    If pH > 8.35 Then OFF

    Thank you,
    Mark


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    Sorry,

    Forgot to add the switch is named: SWX6_2 and the Outlet is Float-1


    Thanks

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    To reverse the way a float displays, there is a little C hook at the bottom. Take that off, flip the magnet around, and then but the C clip back in.

    You just add the line

    If SWX6_2 OPEN Then OFF

    To the end of any code you want to turn off for high water level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by backeast View Post
    Good evening Zombie,

    My float switch is reading Down is open, and Up is closed. I cannot get it to read in reverse as you suggest?
    What am I missing. I even reversed the wires, and of course same results.
    I purchased a standard float switch, so I'm somewhat confused.
    I've also noticed the response time to the switch is very slow.

    My other question is; Where would I add the code in my dosing code;
    Fallback OFF
    OSC 000:00/008:23/051:37 Then ON
    If Time 17:00 to 03:59 Then OFF
    If pH > 8.35 Then OFF

    Thank you,
    Mark


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    ^^^^^^^

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    Perfect,

    Thank you very much Zombie.

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    Zombie,

    For my own edification, what's the reason for flipping that around and writing the code that way?
    Thank you,
    Mark C

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    Safety. OPEN should always be the safe condition. There's a good explain in the Comprehensive Reference Manual
    Please do not send me PMs with technical questions or requesting assistance - use the forums for Apex help. PM me ONLY if the matter is of a private or personal nature. Thanks.

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    Thank you Russ,

    If you don't mind I have another question. I have both my email alert, and my audible alarm set to: If SWX6_2 OPEN Then ON
    In this position they are sending out alerts?
    Should they read differently where the code is If SWX6_2 OPEN Then OFF in switch?

    Thanks,
    Mark

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    Good afternoon Mr. Zombie,
    If you don't mind I have another question. I have both my email alert, and my audible alarm set to: If SWX6_2 OPEN Then ON
    In this position they are sending out alerts, and the audible alert doesnt shut off?
    Should they read differently where the code is If SWX6_2 OPEN Then OFF in switch?

    Thanks,
    Mark

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    Your audible alarm will alarm as long as the condition is true.

    An email will only be sent when the condition is true subject to the re-email delay. If that is 60 minutes, you'll only get an email every 60 minutes where the audible will be on for that entire time.
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    Thanks Aquamanic,

    The alarm is sounding when it shouldnt be from what I gather. I was instructed to use the code: If HighSw OPEN Then ON, but with this setting the audible alarm is sounding off when the float hasn't been tripped?

    Zombie instructed me to set this up as follows:
    To reverse the way a float displays, there is a little C hook at the bottom. Take that off, flip the magnet around, and then but the C clip back in.

    You just add the line

    If SWX6_2 OPEN Then OFF

    To the end of any code you want to turn off for high water level.

    I'm obvisolsy doing something wrong?

    Thanks,

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    Good afternoon Mr. Zombie,
    If you don't mind I have another question. I have both my email alert, and my audible alarm set to: If SWX6_2 OPEN Then ON
    In this position they are sending out alerts, and the audible alert doesnt shut off?
    Should they read differently where the code is If SWX6_2 OPEN Then OFF in switch?

    Thanks,
    Mark

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    If you flipped the magnet around and it is still alarming, then that means either your connection to the breakout box isn't good, or you may have a bad float. When you manually hold the float up, does the switch change state in fusion (fusion updates every 15-30 seconds, so you have to hold it there for a bit FYI)?

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    Yes,

    Float switch works fine, and the code you had me use shuts down the appropriate pumps.
    What isnt working is the code supplied for the alarm, and email alert? Mutiple emails, and audiable alarm doesnt shut off?

    Thanks

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    I did not flip it around and try it. I did flip it originally as requested.

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    Your high float should normally be down or CLOSED. Up would be OPEN and should alarm.

    The bottom float should normally be up or OPEN. Down or CLOSED would indicate low water and turn on the ATO.

    Those are normal float orientations and don't require any modification.
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    Aquamanic,

    I'm using a single float switch unrelated to the ATO. This float is designed to keep my refugium from overflowing in the event of a clog.
    The float was reversed for safety to read: Up shows open, and down shows closed.
    IE. If SWX6_2 OPEN Then OFF, and in the Email, and Audiable its reads: If SWX6_2 OPEN then ON
    With this setting the Alarm rings and wont shut off, and I get multiple emails.

    Sorry if I"m missing something, but I'm asking what do I change in the code to make the alert, and email function properly, and
    what I mean by that is. When the water rises, and the float switch triggers it shut's down the appropriate pumps (Which works fine currently with this setting If SWX6_2 OPEN Then OFF) Please explain why the alerts arent triggering properly?
    I do appreciate the help..

    Thanks,

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    It seems it's working exactly like it's supposed to:

    Float UP (OPEN) = pumps OFF, alarms ON.

    Isn't that what's happening?
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