ok so i am using the simple two float ato program and it is coded like this
Fallback OFF
Set OFF
If Sw1 CLOSED Then ON
If Sw2 CLOSED Then OFF
Defer 002:00 Then ON
Min Time 010:00 Then OFF
i want to set an alarm to notify me when the main sw1 is closed for more than 3 mins and then also shut off the pump so it doesn't pump all the water or burn up the pump if the container is empty. how can i go about setting this up thanks
set up a virtual outlet that acts like a timer when the switch is closed. The virtual outlet will have the "turn on" command when sw1 is closed, but will be prevented from doing so by a defer command. If the outlet reaches the time specified in the defer command and turns on then this will trigger an alarm and will shut off the pump.
Create this VO:
Sw1_VO
If Sw1 closed then on
Defer 003:00 then on
In your pump program add the line to the end of your programming
If outlet Sw1_VO = on then off
In your email/alarm outlet programming add this statement
If outlet Sw1_VO = on then on
Keep in mind that if the vo turns on after the 3 min defer time it will stay on and if no other programming is added after that line in your pump program it will keep the return pump off until you manually reset the Sw1_VO back to the off, then auto position.
Chad
this is isn't for the return pump its for the ATO pump in my container for the RODI water. so if I understand this correctly if the alarm triggers it then require me or my wife to manually reset the outlet in fusion? thanks for your help so far
Fallback OFFOriginally Posted by Kdawg_69
Set OFF
If Sw1 CLOSED Then ON
If Sw2 CLOSED Then OFF
Defer 002:00 Then ON
Min Time 010:00 Then OFF
If outlet Sw1_VO = on then off
Yes you will need to reset the Sw1_VO manually as I assume that is what you want. If you don't then add the "Set OFF" statement and it would return to off if Sw1 opened again. Also, is your MIN time correct. You are now telling the outlet to stay OFF a minimum of 10 min. If you want the outlet to stay "ON" a min amount of time, change the statement to Min Time 010:00 then ON. It's confusing I know.
Chad
yes that is fine with manually resetting the VO with the min time statement will that override the VO if that event has happened or will it just stay off until I reset the VO? hope that made sense
also how do I create a VO
It will remain off.
Chad
Chadster gave one possible way to do this. There are many ways depending on how you want all aspects of the system to respond. Please read this thread.
https://forum.neptunesystems.com/sho...-ATO-Failsafes
I asked that question before I saw the thread thanks though
ok so I tried to create the virtual outlet using the display and it isn't showing up in fusion even after logging off and back on again?
Did you check your unused tile bin?
yes I did but it was not there either
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After you typed the code in the VO, did you remember to click the arrow in the upper right corner to send and save your configuration or did you program the VO using the classic dash. If you want to add me to your fusion account I could take a look and see if I can find it.
Username is "iamchadster"
Chad
I didn't even get to the typing of the code yet cause I can't find the VO in fusion after creating it on the display that I have? unless I did that wrong
Ok so I got the VO to show up I wasn't coding it correctly on the display my bad here is what I have setup but the problem is my wife and I are receiving alarms that there is something wrong with the ato when there isn't? I think I got the coding wrong somewhere
ATO pump outlet
Fallback OFF
Set OFF
If Sw1 CLOSED Then ON
If Sw2 CLOSED Then OFF
Defer 002:00 Then ON
Min Time 010:00 Then OFF
If Outlet SW1_VO = ON Then OFF
ATO VO outlet
If Sw1 CLOSED Then ON
Defer 003:00 Then ON
Alarm coding
Set OFF
If Temp > 82.0 Then ON
If Temp < 75.0 Then ON
If Sw3 CLOSED Then ON
If Outlet SW1_VO = ON Then ON
what I am attempting to do is make it to where the ato pump only comes on for about 3 mins max if it comes on but if it stays on for more than three mins and neither float switch turns it off as in the reservoir is empty and then it will send me and the wife an email/text and shut off the pump so it doesn't burn up our pump I hope this makes sense thanks yall
You are missing a Set OFF in the VO
They want the VO to keep it off until the manually reset it. Post the email alarm that you are getting.
Chad
thank you zombie I think that did it
if outlet SW1_VO = on then on
that is the alarm
are you switching the VO to off, then to "auto"? If you put a set off statement in there then really there is no advantage over just putting a "if sw1 closed then off" statement into the pump outlet itself. The whole idea was to have an outlet monitor the status of the switch, if it was closed for more than 3 minutes then have the virtual outlet come on and stay on until you manually turn it off. If you turn off your virtual outlet and put it in "Auto" it shouldn't turn "on" until sw1 has been closed for 3 minutes.
Chad
ok so when I did the orginal programming we got the alarm every hr
n yes I did do the auto to off back to auto
so I took out the SET off statement and 3 mins later I got the alarm stating the VO is on
Are you sure you have your switch orientations correct and are they working. IOW, if you are getting the alarm then Sw1 must be closed for greater than 3 minutes.
Chad
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