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    Thanks will change it and let you know

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    I changed everything and done a test to see it would come back on and it didn't

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    What is it? What did you do?

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    OK the 1st one is my virtual switch
    The 2nd is my return pump what do I have wrong

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    You say "test to see it would come back on and it didn't" what is the it you refer to? What did you do in the test?

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    The doorbell button and it went off and I had it set for five minutes and it never came back on I had to manually go and turn it on

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    Say p7willm my program is in the 2nd pic that would be my return pump

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    Using full sentences explain what you want to do. What hardware you want to use. Is the doorbell normally open or closed? Do not use the word "it" in your explanation. Put it all in 1 post.

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    OK the doorbell is what I'm using for a cut off switch when it is open the return pump runs till I hit the door bell switch and then the return pump goes off for 0600.00 then on. When I set the door bell switch up in set it for 5 Min to see that the switch was working ok and the return pump went off but never came back on i had to turn the return pump on manually

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    Do not use the word "it" in your explanation.
    When I set the door bell switch up in set it for 5 Min
    You used it two times and this makes no sense. Maybe someone else can help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by p7willm View Post
    You used it two times and this makes no sense. Maybe someone else can help.

    I too would like to accomplish a similar task as well.

    Equipment:
    Door bell button (normally in the open state and closes only while being pressed)
    Neptune Apex (2016)
    Break Out Box
    Apex WXM Wireless module for Ecotech
    Ecotech Vortech MPw10
    Protein Skimmer
    Media Reactor
    Main Pump

    Task
    Pushing the doorbell button into the closed position for 3 seconds and then releasing the doorbell button triggers the following series of events independent from any further action of the doorbell button
    1) Turns off MPw10
    2) Turns off Protein skimmer
    3) Turns off Media Reactor
    4) Waits 5 Minutes
    5) Turns on MPw10
    6) Waits 1 hour
    7) Turns on Media Reactor
    8) Turns on Protein skimmer

    I too travel a lot for work and need to make feeding as easy as possible for the kids. I am also new to the Apex.

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    The program is a lot more complicated, and may not be possible, if a second press of the button does not start the whole thing over. For example if you are 4 minutes into the process and press the button again the waits will start over. The other, harder, option is to have the process run the entire hour and pressing the button during that time has no effect on what is happening.

    Which do you want?

    Also, can I put the 1 hour wait into the skimmer and reactor or are there other things that shut them down where you do not want to wait an hour to start them up again? Can the 5 minutes be part of the MPw10?

    If you put the delay code into the stuff then one virtual outlet is all you need
    vFeed
    If button CLOSED Then ON
    Defer 00:03 Then ON

    in each outlet add
    if Outlet vFeed = ON Then OFF
    Defer mm:00 Then ON

    Press the button and after 3 seconds the outlets turn off and after mm minutes they come back on. Remember, they will wait mm minutes to come back on no matter what reason they were shut off.

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    Thank you. I'm obviously going to have to get it all hooked up and do some experimentation to see what options works best. I do want to clarify your last statement though?

    "Remember, they will wait mm minutes to come back on no matter what reason they were shut off."

    I am connecting a number of two position toggle switches through the break out box in-order to Off/Auto command on individual components at a time, such as a media reactor. My questions is this. With the above quote are you saying that if the media reactor is part of the "door bell" feed mode and I manually individually turn off the media reactor using one of my two position switches, that when I place the switch back in the auto position the media reactor will wait the programmed number of minutes before actually turning on? If this is the case can a three position switch (off/auto/on) solve the problem? In essence I would use the "on" position to restart the media reactor immediately and then place it in the "auto" position awaiting the next command.





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    Yes. The Defer mm applies to the entire outlet so a Defer 60:00 Then ON will cause the outlet to wait 60 minutes before turning on no matter what the reason it was turned off.

    If you want an outlet to remain off 60 minutes under some circumstances and come back on immediately in others you will need to use virtual outlets like this.

    vSkimmer
    Set ON
    If Outlet vFeed = ON Then OFF
    Defer 60:00 Then ON

    This outlet will turn off when vFeed comes on and turn back on 60 minutes after vFeed turns off.

    In the skimmer outlet you would have
    if Outlet vSkimmer = OFF Then OFF
    If OtherSw Closed Then OFF

    This would turn the skimmer off for the hour vSkimmer is off and also turn the skimmer off while OtherSw was closed.

    Since the skimmer and reactor are both off for the same time you could use the same virtual outlet, vSkimmer, to keep both of them off for the hour. If you wanted to do the same thing for the MP10 you would need another virtual outlet that had a Defer for 5 minutes.

    Also if you put
    Min Time 060:00 Then OFF
    in vFeed when it goes off it, after you stop pushing the button, it will not come back on again for 1 hour so pressing the button in the middle of a feed cycle will have no effect.

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    Thank you that makes more sense. I can still accomplish what I'm after with a two position switch and will not need an extra breakout box to accommodate three position switches. Thank you for your help.

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