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    Getting the attached Non descript alarm

    I am getting this alarm, any idea what that means?

    FRM:Apex Fusion
    SUBJ:Apex Fusion Alarm: apex1
    MSGate: 2017-06-26 14:43:33 -0400
    Status: OFF
    Statement: Set OFF

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    That means one of two things.

    1. You have the email outlet in manual ON.

    2. A previous alarm condition has cleared.

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    Manual is not on. As for clearing a previous alarm, don't have one and this one has continued for the last 2 hours

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    After further review, the clearing of a previous alarm may be the cause. Although the actual cause of the alarm Dos not seem to be shooting in the notifications. It wasn't noticed until I went into the alarm log.

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    Make sure you have a defer at the end of your email alarm code. Without the defer you can get the behavior you experienced because of transient spikes that don't actually mean something is wrong. These include switches bouncing, electrical interference in probes, quick pH changes from dosing too close to a probe, and air bubbles passing across a probe. A 30 second defer will eliminate these false readings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zombie View Post
    That means one of two things.
    1. You have the email outlet in manual ON.
    If the alarm output was set to manual ON, the notification would be Status ON / Set OFF
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    I'm getting a Status: "On" Statement: "Set On" Error Email Alarm. I've deleted all the code, it still comes on. Added a defer statement, it still comes on. I'm at a loss on how to fix it.

    This is my typical code, if one of these are throwing an alarm I get their statement, but if none of these are throwing an error I always get the "Set On" pinging me every hour.

    If Tmp > 80.0 Then ON
    If Tmp < 75.0 Then ON
    If pH > 8.50 Then ON
    If pH < 7.80 Then ON
    If Error ATK Then ON
    If ATK_HL CLOSED Then ON
    Defer 400:00 Then ON
    If ATO_LL OPEN Then ON
    If FSK_HL CLOSED Then ON

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    Your email outlet needs to be in AUTO. Sounds like you have it in manual ON.

    I also don't see Set OFF as your first line of code. That needs to be there.

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    Thanks zombie, looks like the Set OFF is what I was missing.

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    Do you really intend to have a 400 minute DEFER? That is nearly a 7 hour delay in getting a notification.

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    I do, when my skimmer shuts off in the evening it sets off the high level alarm.

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    There is a better way to do that.

    Create a VO with the code

    HighH2O (VO)
    Set OFF
    If ATK_HL CLOSED Then ON
    If Outlet Return = OFF Then OFF
    If Outlet Skimmer = OFF Then OFF
    Defer 001:00 Then ON

    Replace the ATK_HL line in your email with

    If Outlet HighH2O = ON Then ON

    And change the defer to like a minute or so in the email.

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    Thanks zombie! Entered the new code this evening and it works great.

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    Has your APEX been resetting/restarting randomly lately?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bif24701 View Post
    Has your APEX been resetting/restarting randomly lately?


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    Totally wrong place to post this question. This is an old unrelated thread. To answer your question anyway there is a known bug that has been causing reboots for some users that is in some way related to network for the newest firmware version.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zombie View Post
    Totally wrong place to post this question. This is an old unrelated thread. To answer your question anyway there is a known bug that has been causing reboots for some users that is in some way related to network for the newest firmware version.

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    I asked because I was getting the same notification each time mine reset. Didn’t see that it was older. Thanks for the info.


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