Results 1 to 15 of 15

Thread: Upgrading to the newer control unit

  1. #1
    New User
    Join Date
    Oct 2015
    Location
    Orlando, Fl
    Posts
    6

    Upgrading to the newer control unit

    I have a Classic Gold system that I would like to possibly upgrade to the newer version. My question is am I able to upgrade just the control unit and display without a new power bar and probs?

  2. #2
    Frequent Contributor zombie's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2013
    Location
    Denver, CO
    Posts
    13,176
    Yes you can. One thing to be aware of though is that the configuration cannot be directly transferred, so you will need to start from scratch, or very carefully copy paste all code and outlet names, set up all outlet names the same in the new head unit and then copy paste into it.

    You might be an engineer if...You have no life and can prove it mathematically.

  3. #3
    Frequent Visitor
    Join Date
    Dec 2014
    Location
    Mojave Desert
    Posts
    109
    Quote Originally Posted by zombie View Post
    Yes you can. One thing to be aware of though is that the configuration cannot be directly transferred, so you will need to start from scratch, or very carefully copy paste all code and outlet names, set up all outlet names the same in the new head unit and then copy paste into it.

    You might be an engineer if...You have no life and can prove it mathematically.
    They really need to come up with a better way to do it than a manual port if they expect all the classic users to upgrade. It's bad enough I need to update for the trident. That's just not cool.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

  4. #4
    New User
    Join Date
    Oct 2015
    Location
    Orlando, Fl
    Posts
    6
    Where can I purchase? I only see packages at the LFS and online. I don't mind reprogramming everything. I just don't need another energy bar and I already have probs.

  5. #5
    Frequent Contributor zombie's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2013
    Location
    Denver, CO
    Posts
    13,176
    Quote Originally Posted by Shawnsaucier View Post
    Where can I purchase? I only see packages at the LFS and online. I don't mind reprogramming everything. I just don't need another energy bar and I already have probs.
    At the moment, head units are locked behind an RMA wall. I'm sure that will change soon given that some people like to keep spare head units around and others want to upgrade for the trident when it releases.

    You might be an engineer if...You have no life and can prove it mathematically.

  6. #6
    Frequent Visitor
    Join Date
    Jul 2016
    Location
    minneapolis
    Posts
    71
    Quote Originally Posted by zombie View Post
    At the moment, head units are locked behind an RMA wall. I'm sure that will change soon given that some people like to keep spare head units around and others want to upgrade for the trident when it releases.

    You might be an engineer if...You have no life and can prove it mathematically.
    What is an 'RMA Wall'.

  7. #7
    Frequent Contributor zombie's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2013
    Location
    Denver, CO
    Posts
    13,176
    Quote Originally Posted by mnmnmn View Post
    What is an 'RMA Wall'.
    Means you could only buy one with a code from support for an out of warranty RMA

    You might be an engineer if...You have no life and can prove it mathematically.

  8. #8
    Frequent Visitor
    Join Date
    Jul 2016
    Location
    minneapolis
    Posts
    71
    Quote Originally Posted by zombie View Post
    Means you could only buy one with a code from support for an out of warranty RMA

    You might be an engineer if...You have no life and can prove it mathematically.
    Sorry would you care to say what an RMA is?

  9. #9
    Frequent Visitor
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Location
    Pacific Coast
    Posts
    382
    Quote Originally Posted by mnmnmn View Post
    Sorry would you care to say what an RMA is?
    Return Merchandise Authorization......google is your friend.

  10. #10
    Frequent Visitor
    Join Date
    Jul 2016
    Location
    minneapolis
    Posts
    71
    The most common google result is risk management agency. but - in any case. Best to just communicate what you mean - because it wasn't clear.

  11. #11
    Frequent Visitor
    Join Date
    Feb 2016
    Location
    Toronto
    Posts
    67
    Quote Originally Posted by mnmnmn View Post
    The most common google result is risk management agency. but - in any case. Best to just communicate what you mean - because it wasn't clear.
    You are only able to purchase the 2016 with the energy bar and probes. This is a bitter pill if you own a gold package and only want the brain. (welcome to the apex classic party)

    If you buy the 2016 apex and break it they will sell you a brain as replacement

  12. #12
    Frequent Visitor
    Join Date
    Jul 2016
    Location
    minneapolis
    Posts
    71
    Quote Originally Posted by Garron View Post
    You are only able to purchase the 2016 with the energy bar and probes. This is a bitter pill if you own a gold package and only want the brain. (welcome to the apex classic party)

    If you buy the 2016 apex and break it they will sell you a brain as replacement
    Thanks this makes sense. I have taken that bitter pill - I had bought an 'apex gold' which I thought was the 'apex 2016' (the picture in the ad had the new apex pictured. I now have an apex classic on a large freshwater tank - and an apex 2016 on my reef. In all honesty, the most bitter pill was after changing to the Apex 2016, the hours and thousands of dollars working through poor firmware and a bad chip that caused 2 tank crashes. Be thankful that you did not upgrade immediately (fortunately, most of these issues seem to be improved)

  13. #13
    Frequent Contributor zombie's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2013
    Location
    Denver, CO
    Posts
    13,176
    Quote Originally Posted by Garron View Post
    You are only able to purchase the 2016 with the energy bar and probes. This is a bitter pill if you own a gold package and only want the brain. (welcome to the apex classic party)

    If you buy the 2016 apex and break it they will sell you a brain as replacement
    They will also replace dead classic head units if those get bricked (as least they did when mine died, and I should have upgraded then but wanted to same some money).

    You might be an engineer if...You have no life and can prove it mathematically.

  14. #14
    Frequent Visitor
    Join Date
    Aug 2015
    Location
    Georgia
    Posts
    93
    Quote Originally Posted by mnmnmn View Post
    The most common google result is risk management agency. but - in any case. Best to just communicate what you mean - because it wasn't clear.
    To be fair "RMA" is a standard term used by almost everyone like the word "the".

    Unless you were born yesterday the term generally doesn't need classification to the vast majority of people.

    Sent from my SM-G950U1 using Tapatalk

  15. #15
    Frequent Visitor
    Join Date
    Aug 2015
    Location
    Georgia
    Posts
    93
    Quote Originally Posted by zombie View Post
    They will also replace dead classic head units if those get bricked (as least they did when mine died, and I should have upgraded then but wanted to same some money).

    You might be an engineer if...You have no life and can prove it mathematically.
    They did that for me as well before the 2016 came out.

    After being without my unit for a few weeks I swore I would never run an apex without a spare unit.

    Now I can certainly run a 2016 model and store my classic unit as an emergency back up, but I agree with you that people will want spares.

    And never be an early adopter of technology products or cars unless you know going in its probably going to be a nightmare.

    Sent from my SM-G950U1 using Tapatalk

Similar Threads

  1. Help! Upgrading from older Apex to Newer Version
    By bhbbhb in forum Misc Apex Usage & Programming
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 09-06-2020, 10:14
  2. Question: Upgrading to my Classic unit to the 2016 model. Struggling to figure out what I need to make sure it all plays nicely.
    By deputydog95 in forum A2 Apex/ApexEL and A3 Apex Pro/Apex/Apex Jr
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 11-27-2018, 12:54
  3. Help! Upgrade to new control unit
    By Fishpalace in forum Apex Installation and Mounting
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 12-28-2016, 13:29
  4. Help! AC JR - Looking at upgrading head unit to Apex
    By 420nm in forum Legacy Models: AC3, AC3 Pro, ACjr
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 07-18-2016, 15:37

Bookmarks

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •