Results 1 to 16 of 16

Thread: IceCap Module on Gyre XF250 - Low Flow on IceCap vs Maxspect Controller

  1. #1
    Regular Vistor
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Location
    Iowa
    Posts
    21

    IceCap Module on Gyre XF250 - Low Flow on IceCap vs Maxspect Controller

    Hi all.

    I have a pair of XF250's and a pair of IceCap Interface Modules. No matter what programming I try I can only get about half of the output using the IceCap modules as compared to what I get using the Maxspect controller. I'm using the single bidirectional caple from each module to my 2016 Apex.

    Carlos @ CoralVue insisted that I must have the Gyres assembled wrong. I told him the Gyres work fine on the Maxspect controller, but not on the IceCap modules.

    Anyone else have similar issues? Any suggestions?

  2. #2
    Frequent Contributor iamchadster's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Location
    Wilsonville, Oregon
    Posts
    2,639
    Although I couldn't tell you exactly why it was, but I noticed this as well. There is a calibration that happens upon initial connection to the module. When I noticed it the first time I recall unplugging the power and reconnecting to get the calibration to take place again. It seemed to work after that.

    However,after a lot of experience with the Apex and the Maxspect controller I went with the Gyre controller. I feel that the Gyre's controller is simpler and offers more variability in programming at this point.
    Chad

  3. #3
    Frequent Visitor rkpetersen's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2017
    Location
    Near Seattle
    Posts
    940
    Yup; I get no more than 30-40% as much output from my XF250 with the Icecap controller as with the Maxspect controller. So does reinitializing the Icecap fix this? I remember the initial setup had a warning that the Icecap would run the Gyre at 100% for a time as it calibrates itself. How do you get this process to reset and do over? It's not just simply unplugging it from power, is it?

  4. #4
    Frequent Contributor iamchadster's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Location
    Wilsonville, Oregon
    Posts
    2,639
    I'd disconnect everything and reconnect as if you were doing for the first time....
    Chad

  5. #5
    Frequent Visitor rkpetersen's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2017
    Location
    Near Seattle
    Posts
    940
    I might try that. Just pulling the power plug does nothing special, the pump behaves the same when plugged back in. Only reason I might not is that I now have everything programmed for what I'm getting with the Icecap.

  6. #6
    Regular Vistor Realest's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2017
    Location
    T0m 0s0
    Posts
    26
    My pump puts out less with ice module driving the pump when compared to the Maxspect controller set at the same %.

    Sent from my SM-G930W8 using Tapatalk

  7. #7
    Regular Vistor
    Join Date
    Jun 2013
    Location
    Reno, NV
    Posts
    17
    I was curious to know if you have the advanced controller for the gyre programmed to your liking, and running it on a eb8, when you hit feed on your apex does it resume the progam on the advanced controller after the feed cycle has been selected on the apex? Or do you have to hit feed on the advanced controller to keep all the settings?

  8. #8
    Frequent Contributor iamchadster's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Location
    Wilsonville, Oregon
    Posts
    2,639
    Do you mean if you program the eb8 outlet to shut the pump off? Then once power is restored will the gyre come back on? The programming stays but I don't know if it will.come back on after the power is restored automatically or not. I'll try it and let ya know
    Chad

  9. #9
    Regular Vistor
    Join Date
    Jun 2013
    Location
    Reno, NV
    Posts
    17
    Yes, i was curious if once the feed cycle was selected from the apex that the gyres would resume the program from the advanced controller. thank you for checking... i have some older jabeos that once i hit feed on my apex, they lose the night mode but resume the same cycle they had. So they never slow down throughout the night of i dont remember to put them back on night mode.

  10. #10
    Frequent Contributor iamchadster's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Location
    Wilsonville, Oregon
    Posts
    2,639
    The only thing you can do with the Gyre in your scenario would be an on or off to the controller. If you had an Gyre icecap module then it would be a different story. I still haven't pulled the power and plugged it back in. I'll try tonight.
    Chad

  11. #11
    Regular Vistor
    Join Date
    Jun 2013
    Location
    Reno, NV
    Posts
    17
    I do have the icecap module but was considering getting the advanced controller due to the output over the icecap. But I didn't want to get the advanced controller if feed mode was selected on the apex and I then lost the programming on the advanced controller once the feed mode was done on the apex.

  12. #12
    Frequent Contributor iamchadster's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Location
    Wilsonville, Oregon
    Posts
    2,639
    OK, I went and did a little test. My Maxspect Adv. controller had been sitting in the garage without power for almost a month and when plugged back in resumed the last programming I had set. I let it run a little and then removed power simulating the eb8 turning the outlet off. Plugged back in it went through a little warmup looking for pump B (in my case only side A was plugged in) then resumed normal programming. So in the case of having just the adv. controller you could program the outlet off during a feed mode etc then back on when it was done and it should resume the programming it was given prior to pulling the power.
    Chad

  13. #13
    Regular Vistor
    Join Date
    Jun 2013
    Location
    Reno, NV
    Posts
    17
    Chad, I can't thank you enough for your help. You are a great human being!

  14. #14
    Frequent Contributor iamchadster's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Location
    Wilsonville, Oregon
    Posts
    2,639
    Quote Originally Posted by IN 2 DEEP View Post
    Chad, I can't thank you enough for your help. You are a great human being!
    No worries. I enjoy helping out.
    Chad

  15. #15
    New User
    Join Date
    Dec 2017
    Location
    Boston, MA
    Posts
    1
    The only issue I've discovered is that when the eb8 is turned off during feed mode, if you have an icecap battery back up, it automatically kicks on thinking the power is out. Has anyone else experienced this or come up with a solution?

  16. #16
    Master Control Freak RussM's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2012
    Location
    California - US Pacific
    Posts
    22,463
    Quote Originally Posted by AbominableBro View Post
    The only issue I've discovered is that when the eb8 is turned off during feed mode, if you have an icecap battery back up, it automatically kicks on thinking the power is out. Has anyone else experienced this or come up with a solution?
    Do not turn off the EB8 outlet; it should be programming to simply be always ON if you use an EB out;ley for the Gypre power supply. It's not necessary to even use an EB8 outlet. Instead, put the If Feed statements in the variable output (VarSpd) controlling the Gyre.
    Please do not send me PMs with technical questions or requesting assistance - use the forums for Apex help. PM me ONLY if the matter is of a private or personal nature. Thanks.

Similar Threads

  1. Need Help Icecap 3k and Icecap Gyre Module
    By Rshashaty in forum Apex Programming for Vortech, Tunze, & Other Controllable Pumps
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: 12-02-2018, 12:23
  2. Connecting icecap battery to maxspect gyre icecap module and Apex
    By Knef911 in forum Misc Aquarium Automation Discussions
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 01-14-2018, 07:52
  3. Help! Icecap Interface Module w/Maxspect XF250
    By mpjones1 in forum Apex Programming for Vortech, Tunze, & Other Controllable Pumps
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 08-30-2017, 23:02
  4. icecap control module and gyre XF250 pumps
    By f3honda4me in forum Apex Programming for Vortech, Tunze, & Other Controllable Pumps
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 05-02-2017, 05:56
  5. Maxspect Gyre/Icecap Module- Do both have to run identical off of same Variable Speed port?
    By tige21v in forum Apex Programming for Vortech, Tunze, & Other Controllable Pumps
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 04-13-2016, 07:34

Bookmarks

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •