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    Post New to Apex programming

    Hello I just bought a Apex JR and i want to know how to program it when i have a power failure i want my skimmer to delay it start 2 minutes after power has been restored to the outlet that the skimmer is plugged into.

    PS: My return pump is not connected to the Apex so I can't use the return pump feature.

    Thanks.

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    Anyone?

    Thanks.

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    Add this at the end of your skimmer output program:

    If Power Apex Off 002 Then OFF
    Please do not send me PMs with technical questions or requesting assistance - use the forums for Apex help. PM me ONLY if the matter is of a private or personal nature. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RussM View Post
    Add this at the end of your skimmer output program:

    If Power Apex Off 002 Then OFF
    Yesterday I added this:

    Fallback ON
    Set ON
    If Output Return = OFF Then OFF
    If Power Apex Off 001 Then OFF
    Defer 005:00 Then ON


    But when the power comes back there is power to the skimmer outlet and that starts the skimmer right away then when the Apex controller as finished booting it stops the skimmer, but by the time the Apex controller comes back up from the power failure my skimmer has the time to overflow in my sump.

    is there a way to do on power back up don't power that outlet at all meaning when the power comes back have the skimmer outlet with 0 power and don't wait for the Apex controller to finish booting ?

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    The Fallback command is used to specify a default state when communication is lost. By setting it to ON, that will be the state when power resumes before the controller has booted. Try changing the Fallback to OFF.

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    Here is my skimmer progrram:

    Fallback ON
    Set ON
    If Output Leak_detect = ON Then OFF
    If Output Return1 = OFF Then OFF
    Defer 002:00 Then ON

    The return shuts down at auto feeding times and I have the skimmer shut down because of rising sump water levels.

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    if i do this:

    Fallback OFF
    Set ON
    If Output Return = OFF Then OFF
    If Power Apex Off 001 Then OFF
    Defer 005:00 Then ON

    Will this cut power to the outlet as soon as the power is restored in my house and restart my skimmer in 6 minutes? Is the fallback off ok as you state in a Sticky the following:

    The use of Fallback is entirely optional. If you use Fallback, think carefully about the affect on your system if Fallback mode gets activated for any given outlet.

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    Fallback can be a Catch-22 since ON may be desirable in some cases, and OFF in others. Do you have a way to always maintain power to the base unit with a battery backup? I have a large UPS that runs one EB8 and another EB8 on house mains. I use the house mains to detect a power failure and operate the critical components on the backup. I have also programmed the critical outlets to conserve power when mains are down. I can't tell from the online info if the Jr. has an auxiliary power jack. If it does, then you could use that with a small UPS to keep to base unit running.

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