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    Is this right? Skimmer program?

    If FeedA 000 Then OFF
    Defer 005:00 Then ON
    If FeedC 000 Then OFF
    Defer 120:00 Then ON

    What I'm trying to do is for feeding my fish, I want the skimmer to wait 5 minutes after FeedA expires to kick on. FeedC is when I feed my corals, and i want them to have 2 hours of no skimming of water, and after 120 minutes, the skimmer kicks back on.

    It makes sense to me, but then again...that's not really saying much.

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    No, you can't have multiple Defers of the same state. Well, you can but the last would override any prior. Also, Defer applies to the entire outlet, not individual statements. What you need to do is configure the duration of each Feed cycle to be as long as you need it. So for instance, FeedC needs to be configured to be 120 minutes. In the classic dashboard this is done under Configuration, Misc Setup. If you need to activate/deactivate multiple outlets at the same time, but last different durations, such as shutting off the pump for 120 minutes and the skimmer for 130 minutes, use the secondary duration parameter of the Feed command. So for your skimmer outlet you might have:

    Fallback ON
    Set ON
    If FeedA 005 Then OFF
    If FeedC 010 Then OFF

    This would shut off the skimmer for the configured duration of FeedA plus 5 minutes. FeedC would shutoff for the configured duration (120 minutes in this case) plus 10 minutes.

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    I would actually do this. This assumes you have a high optical sensor for ATO. If you have a float, change the state to OPEN. Remove that line completely if you don't have an apex controlled ATO. Set FeedC to a duration of 115 minutes.

    Fallback ON
    Set ON
    If Outlet Returnpumpname = OFF Then OFF
    If HighSwitchName CLOSED Then OFF
    If Power Apex Off 001 Then OFF
    If FeedC 000 Then OFF
    Defer 005:00 Then ON

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    I didn’t understand a single word of that Zombie

    I have a tunze 3155. What I am trying to do is have the auto kick on before the water level stabilizes as well.

    This is my current program:

    Fallback OFF
    Set ON
    If Output Sicce = OFF Then OFF
    If FeedA 125 Then OFF
    If FeedC 035 Then OFF
    If FeedD 010 Then OFF

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    You need a defer, and you want the apex power line so it doesn't overflow after losing power. I would change to this.

    Fallback OFF
    Set ON
    If Output Sicce = OFF Then OFF
    If Power Apex Off 001 Then OFF
    If FeedA 120 Then OFF
    If FeedC 030 Then OFF
    If FeedD 005 Then OFF
    Defer 005:00 Then OFF



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    Quote Originally Posted by zombie View Post
    You need a defer, and you want the apex power line so it doesn't overflow after losing power. I would change to this.

    Fallback OFF
    Set ON
    If Output Sicce = OFF Then OFF
    If Power Apex Off 001 Then OFF
    If FeedA 120 Then OFF
    If FeedC 030 Then OFF
    If FeedD 005 Then OFF
    Defer 005:00 Then OFF



    You might be an engineer if...You have no life and can prove it mathematically.

    And for the Skimmer?

    Fallback OFF
    Set ON
    If Output Sicce = OFF Then OFF
    If Power Apex Off 001 Then OFF
    If FeedA 120 Then OFF
    If FeedC 030 Then OFF
    If FeedD 005 Then OFF


    Essentially, when I am normal feed (A), I want the skimmer off for 2 hours afterwards for coral feeding. Feed C, off for 30 minutes, and FeedD is my cleaning program, everything is off for 45 minutes, and the skimmer comes on 5 minutes later?

    For the ATO, I basically want it to come on 10 minutes after the skimmer so the water level in the sump stabilizes.

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    You need the defer or it will overflow if the return gets shut off for any reason other than the feed.


    The ATO can just be

    Fallback OFF
    Set ON
    If Outlet Skimmername = OFF Then OFF
    Defer 010:00 Then OFF

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    Oh that's a gazillion times easier.

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    ok, so my ATO is NOT shutting off when my skimmer is off.

    if I go to FeedA (for example), my return is off, my skimmer is off). my ATO green light is still powered on though.

    So I made if FeedA 130 then OFF (for example)

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    Is the ATO in auto? If it is and it's not shutting off then either you have it in the wrong outlet (low power devices must be in 4 or 8) or your code doesn't match what I showed above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pdiehm View Post
    ok, so my ATO is NOT shutting off when my skimmer is off.
    The code zombie posted has a 10 minute delay before the ATO will shut off, did you wait long enough?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zombie View Post
    You need the defer or it will overflow if the return gets shut off for any reason other than the feed.


    The ATO can just be

    Fallback OFF
    Set ON
    If Outlet Skimmername = OFF Then OFF
    Defer 010:00 Then ON

    You might be an engineer if...You have no life and can prove it mathematically.
    Must not have had enough caffene. I made a mistake in the code above. Should have been Then ON for the Defer.

    You might be an engineer if...You have no life and can prove it mathematically.

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