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    ATO programming

    Hi there,

    So I have a magnetic float switch, the breakout box and a PMUP and I want to have the proper prgramming language for my pump in order to avoid any mishaps or floods.

    I was told I needed to create an ATO latch and resid latch which I created.

    Can someone let me know how to proceed from here and what programming language I need to have for each?

    I want to pump to also run a maximum of 5 mins in a 24 hr period.

    Thank you in advance !

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    Quote Originally Posted by rizorido View Post
    Hi there,

    So I have a magnetic float switch, the breakout box and a PMUP and I want to have the proper prgramming language for my pump in order to avoid any mishaps or floods.

    I was told I needed to create an ATO latch and resid latch which I created.

    Can someone let me know how to proceed from here and what programming language I need to have for each?

    I want to pump to also run a maximum of 5 mins in a 24 hr period.

    Thank you in advance !
    Whoever told you that you needed a latch and reset is not aware of recent programming changes that released along with the ATK. There is now actually a max time feature called When.

    You can use the task and it will auto generate you this code which is a good starting point

    Fallback OFF
    Set OFF
    If Atk_lo OPEN Then ON
    If Atk_hi CLOSED Then OFF
    Defer 000:10 Then ON
    Defer 000:04 Then OFF
    Min Time 060:00 Then OFF
    When On > 005:00 Then OFF

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    I don’t have an ATK, I have the mag float, the pmup and the breakout box.


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    Quote Originally Posted by rizorido View Post
    I don’t have an ATK, I have the mag float, the pmup and the breakout box.


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    Then change OPEN to CLOSED and vise versa (make sure UP = OPEN on your floats) and the same code will apply. You will probably need to adjust the length of the when statement, but it will be fine to start. Let it run for 24-48 hours, check the outlet log (make sure to check the box for the ATO outlet) and change the 5 minutes to around 2 times the longest fill you see in the log.

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    Does it make sense to make sure that the switches OPEN then OFF. this will ensure that if the Break out Box gets unpluged then you wont flood.

    Quote Originally Posted by zombie View Post
    Fallback OFF
    Set OFF
    If Atk_lo OPEN Then ON
    If Atk_hi CLOSED Then OFF
    Defer 000:10 Then ON
    Defer 000:04 Then OFF
    Min Time 060:00 Then OFF
    When On > 005:00 Then OFF
    With this code, if the Break out Box was unplugged wouldn't the tank call for water for 5 minutes regardless of the floats because the switches read open when BOB unplugged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biglurr54 View Post
    Does it make sense to make sure that the switches OPEN then OFF. this will ensure that if the Break out Box gets unpluged then you wont flood.



    With this code, if the Break out Box was unplugged wouldn't the tank call for water for 5 minutes regardless of the floats because the switches read open when BOB unplugged.
    I addressed that in post 4 once I realized I misread his post title of ATO as ATK. Not enough caffeine. Floats you want OPEN = stop, which is usually up. It works the opposite for opticals because they read as covered = CLOSED.

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    Thanks guys, here is what I have done, let me know if it is good. Also, What does Min Time stand for? is that the time set where the ATO pump will work for 3 mins ( i.e max 3 mins in an hour?) I wanted to set it per 24 hours.

    Fallback OFF
    Set OFF
    If Flt_sw OPEN Then OFF
    If Flt_sw CLOSED Then ON
    Defer 000:10 Then ON
    Defer 000:04 Then OFF
    Min Time 060:00 Then OFF
    When On > 003:00 Then OFF
    If Salt < 31 Then OFF

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    When means if the pump runs longer than 3 minutes on a single fill attempt, then it will set the outlet to manual OFF. If you add

    If Error ATOname Then ON


    To your email it will alert you when this happens.

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    Thanks ! so what does the 60 stand for in minimum time?

    Quote Originally Posted by zombie View Post
    Min Time means if the pump runs longer than 3 minutes on a single fill attempt, then it will set the outlet to manual OFF. If you add

    If Error ATOname Then ON


    To your email it will alert you when this happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rizorido View Post
    Thanks ! so what does the 60 stand for in minimum time?
    Sorry. I was explaining When earlier. Min Time means that it must be at least 1 hour from the last fill before it's allowed to fill again regardless of switch state.

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    Ato alert

    How would you create an alert when it goes on. I would like to monitor the fill whenever the ATO goes on?
    Last edited by nightreefer; 05-08-2018 at 13:24. Reason: Didnt finish

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    Wow, that could be a lot of texts and or emails depending on the size of your system...

    Set an email alarm statment.
    If output (your ato outlet) = on then on.

    Another option would be to click the log box for the ato output and you can check the times it is on from there in the logs on the fly.

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    That worked perfectly. Thanks much. The purpose was to watch the fill as it happens. I will be going away so I am a bit paranoid. Will Definitely have to shut it off when I get back home.

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