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    Going to pull my hair out!

    I went down to do some testing this morning after a few changes I had made last night. When I walked in the first thing I noticed was the return chamber was extremely low and my ATO was not on and the ATO res was full. My fusion app was showing that switch 1 was closed and that the ATO was working.... but obviously it wasn't. I then unplugged the pump from the eb8 and plugged it directly into an outlet, no dice. It was dead. Luckily I had a new aqualifter sitting on the shelf and swapped out the pump. I'm running the Avast ATO Neptune digital output with the avast diaphram pump. Thinking I had the problem fixed, I went out to do a few things with my wife. While I was out I would frequently check fusion and hadn't received any alarms. I even noticed one time I physically saw the ATO go from on to off and the switch swap back to open. After the errands I grilled and ate dinner with my family... and put the kids to bed around 8:30.

    Time to head back down stairs. This time first thing I noticed was a sucking sound and my sump 3 inches from the top, COMPLETELY full. Never use an ATO res bigger than what your sump can handle if it was to be fed the whole thing. I'm sooo glad I didn't. My pump never shut off even though the apex said that it had. So in the auto position it will turn on but will not turn off... furthermore, I can manually turn it on but can not manually turn it off. I have to physically unplug it to turn it off.

    Another thing I noticed tonight was that when I went to calibrate the temp probe I couldn't dial it back any further than 81.1. One more click on the display and it would turn over to 110.

    Is the brain dying???? Is the eb8 dying????? Are they both dying??????


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    There is a warning in the users manual about using low wattage pumps like aqualifters on any outlet except 4 or 8. It can only go on one of those two or it may stick ON even when the outlet says it's OFF.

    Probes can only be calibrated within a certain range. If the actual temp is less than 81.1 and your probe is reading above that, you need a new probe (most likely) or there is a problem with the port.

    You might be an engineer if...You have no life and can prove it mathematically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zombie View Post
    There is a warning in the users manual about using low wattage pumps like aqualifters on any outlet except 4 or 8. It can only go on one of those two or it may stick ON even when the outlet says it's OFF.

    Probes can only be calibrated within a certain range. If the actual temp is less than 81.1 and your probe is reading above that, you need a new probe (most likely) or there is a problem with the port.

    You might be an engineer if...You have no life and can prove it mathematically.
    That's the first thing I thought of

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    Did you install the anti-siphon break?

    Did you run the ATK TASK?


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    Yes. The siphon break was installed. No, I didn't run the ATK task I have it written like this.
    Quote Originally Posted by vhuang168 View Post
    Did you install the anti-siphon break?

    Did you run the ATK TASK?


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    Ah didn’t see that you are using the Avast ATO.

    So the programming is right.

    The pump is probably too low draw and the outlet stayed on as Zombie suggested.


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    Quote Originally Posted by vhuang168 View Post
    Ah didn’t see that you are using the Avast ATO.

    So the programming is right.

    The pump is probably too low draw and the outlet stayed on as Zombie suggested.


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    I ordered the socket expansion module last night. Hopefully that fixes the low voltage draw issue. And after contacting avast via email they have already sent me a return label and they are going to replace it. The avast diaphram pump had been running on the outlet for almost a month with out a hitch but to avoid future problems I'll run it off of the expansion socket.

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    Where did you find a Socket Expansion Module? They have been discontinued.

    They were meant for high draw applications, not to solve the low draw issue.

    Use plug 4 or 8 instead.


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    I cant my return is on 4 and my chiller is on 8. I found it online for 49.50. I'll see if I can find the link.
    Quote Originally Posted by vhuang168 View Post
    Where did you find a Socket Expansion Module? They have been discontinued.

    They were meant for high draw applications, not to solve the low draw issue.

    Use plug 4 or 8 instead.


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    So your 8 outlets are full?

    In that case, I suggest you pick up an EB4 instead.


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    Quote Originally Posted by vhuang168 View Post
    So your 8 outlets are full?

    In that case, I suggest you pick up an EB4 instead.


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    Yes.. and here's where I got it. It was 39. I had my wife order it. So hopefully I didn't just throw 40 bucks away. Lol. I might just do what you suggested and get my mixing station off of the regular power strip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadQ View Post
    I cant my return is on 4 and my chiller is on 8. I found it online for 49.50. I'll see if I can find the link.

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    Swap outlets, just move the code over

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