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    Light program stopped working after 5 years

    I have a Classic Apex Controller, my light program decided to stop being automated. on May 1st, my main lights will not turn on or off as programmed. Now as of May 29th, my moon lights have also stopped turning on and off as programmed. there is no automation with the lights. I have downgraded the firmware, updated the firmware, updated the modules, restarted the system and even reprogrammed the lights as just off and on without a profile. still no luck. My concern is if the system is on its last leg, I need to know, or is this just some random bug. summer is here and I do not want the circuit that is controlling my chiller to fail on the 100+ degree days. I have been a Neptune supporter from the beginning so any ideas and help will be appreciated.

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    Tray

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    What lights and module are you using?

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    The lights are plugged into my EB8 and 3 Kessil A160WE Tuna Blue lights. I have programmed the outlet to just on and off at certain times and the controller will not follow the commands. I have been using the same program for years with no changes. My refugium lights are still cycling according to the commands in the program. I can still log into apex to manually turn on the lights.

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    Something could have gotten corrupted or there is something in the code turning it off that just never became an issue until now. Please post your code and a firmware update wouldn't hurt.

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    Something you can try if you have an available outlet is move your lights to a different outlet and see if the issue continues.

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    I think I figured it out. I have been using the

    Fallback OFF Set OFF


    commands for years, when I removed the commands, the lights turn on. Is the Set Off command required?



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    The set OFF command is most definitely required. Please post the entire code and we can see if there is a problem with it.

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    Thank you for helping me with this issue. I think this is what your asking for.


    <proglist software="4.53_AB17" hardware="1.0">

    <hostname>apex</hostname>
    <serial>AC4:03164</serial>
    <timezone>-8.00</timezone>
    <date>05/31/2018 16:32:40</date>
    <outlets>
    <outlet>
    <name>S-Color</name>
    <icon>Up/Down Arrows</icon>
    <outputID>0</outputID>
    <outputType>Advanced</outputType>
    <outputLog>Enable</outputLog>
    <program>
    Fallback OFF tdata 00:00:00,0,0,10,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 tdata 06:44:00,0,0,17,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 tdata 10:24:00,0,0,30,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 tdata 14:36:00,0,0,29,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 tdata 19:27:00,0,0,14,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 tdata 23:59:00,0,0,10,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
    </program>



    </outlet>


    <outlet>
    <name>S-Intensity</name>
    <icon>Left/Right Arrows</icon>
    <outputID>1</outputID>
    <outputType>Advanced</outputType>
    <outputLog>Enable</outputLog>
    <program>
    Fallback OFF tdata 00:00:00,0,0,10,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 tdata 06:07:00,0,0,22,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 tdata 11:10:00,0,0,51,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 tdata 14:18:00,0,0,52,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 tdata 16:56:00,0,0,48,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 tdata 18:56:00,0,0,18,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 tdata 23:59:00,0,0,10,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
    </program>



    </outlet>


    <outlet>
    <name>_I3</name>
    <icon>Up/Down Arrows</icon>
    <outputID>2</outputID>
    <outputType>Advanced</outputType>
    <outputLog>Disable</outputLog>
    <program>
    Fallback OFF Set OFF If Time 19:00 to 06:30 Then ON If Time 06:30 to 19:00 Then OFF
    </program>



    </outlet>


    <outlet>
    <name>_I4</name>
    <icon>Left/Right Arrows</icon>
    <outputID>3</outputID>
    <outputType>Advanced</outputType>
    <outputLog>Disable</outputLog>
    <program>Fallback OFF Set OFF</program>

    </outlet>


    <outlet>
    <name>SndAlm_I6</name>
    <icon>Sound B</icon>
    <outputID>4</outputID>
    <outputType>Advanced</outputType>
    <outputLog>Enable</outputLog>
    <program>
    Set OFF If STemp > 90.0 Then ON If STemp < 76.0 Then ON If SORP > 450 Then ON If SORP < 270 Then ON If SPh > 8.80 Then ON If SPh < 7.90 Then ON If Sw1 CLOSED Then ON
    </program>



    </outlet>


    <outlet>
    <name>SndWrn_I7</name>
    <icon>Sound A</icon>
    <outputID>5</outputID>
    <outputType>Advanced</outputType>
    <outputLog>Enable</outputLog>
    <program>
    Set OFF If STemp > 88.0 Then ON If STemp < 77.5 Then ON If SORP < 400 Then ON If SORP > 325 Then ON If SPh > 8.65 Then ON If SPh < 7.90 Then ON If Sw1 CLOSED Then ON
    </program>



    </outlet>


    <outlet>
    <name>EmailAlm_I5</name>
    <icon>Email</icon>
    <outputID>6</outputID>
    <outputType>Advanced</outputType>
    <outputLog>Disable</outputLog>
    <program>
    Set OFF If STemp > 83.0 Then ON If STemp < 77.0 Then ON If SORP > 495 Then ON If SPh < 8.10 Then ON If Sw1 CLOSED Then ON If Sw2 CLOSED Then ON
    </program>



    </outlet>


    <outlet>
    <name>SWLTS</name>
    <icon>Light A</icon>
    <outputID>7</outputID>
    <outputType>Advanced</outputType>
    <outputLog>Disable</outputLog>
    <program>
    If Time 06:00 to 19:30 Then ON If STemp > 88.5 Then OFF Fallback OFF
    </program>



    </outlet>


    <outlet>
    <name>SMoonLTS</name>
    <icon>Moon</icon>
    <outputID>8</outputID>
    <outputType>Advanced</outputType>
    <outputLog>Enable</outputLog>
    <program>
    If Time 18:50 to 06:02 Then ON If STemp > 90.0 Then OFF Fallback OFF Set OFF
    </program>



    </outlet>


    <outlet>
    <name>LT</name>
    <icon>Light B</icon>
    <outputID>9</outputID>
    <outputType>Advanced</outputType>
    <outputLog>Enable</outputLog>
    <program>
    If Time 06:00 to 19:30 Then ON If STemp > 88.5 Then OFF
    </program>



    </outlet>


    <outlet>
    <name>Hospitalskim</name>
    <icon>Bell</icon>
    <outputID>10</outputID>
    <outputType>Advanced</outputType>
    <outputLog>Enable</outputLog>
    <program>Fallback OFF Set ON</program>

    </outlet>


    <outlet>
    <name>SumpLT</name>
    <icon>Thumbs</icon>
    <outputID>11</outputID>
    <outputType>Advanced</outputType>
    <outputLog>Enable</outputLog>
    <program>
    Fallback OFF Set OFF If Time 14:30 to 06:30 Then ON If Time 06:30 to 18:30 Then OFF
    </program>



    </outlet>


    <outlet>
    <name>OzonePump</name>
    <icon>Moon</icon>
    <outputID>12</outputID>
    <outputType>Advanced</outputType>
    <outputLog>Enable</outputLog>
    <program>
    Fallback OFF If SORP > 350 Then OFF If SORP < 320 Then ON If FeedA 015 Then OFF
    </program>



    </outlet>


    <outlet>
    <name>Hospitalheat</name>
    <icon>Sound B</icon>
    <outputID>13</outputID>
    <outputType>Advanced</outputType>
    <outputLog>Enable</outputLog>
    <program>
    Fallback OFF If FTemp < RT+0.4 Then ON If FTemp > RT+0.3 Then OFF Min Time 002:00 Then OFF
    </program>



    </outlet>


    <outlet>
    <name>SMainPump</name>
    <icon>Spigot</icon>
    <outputID>14</outputID>
    <outputType>Advanced</outputType>
    <outputLog>Disable</outputLog>
    <program>Fallback ON Set ON</program>

    </outlet>


    <outlet>
    <name>SHeat_800_1</name>
    <icon>Thermometer</icon>
    <outputID>15</outputID>
    <outputType>Advanced</outputType>
    <outputLog>Enable</outputLog>
    <program>
    Fallback OFF If STemp < 77.0 Then ON If STemp > 79.0 Then OFF Min Time 002:00 Then OFF
    </program>



    </outlet>


    <outlet>
    <name>SHeat_800_2</name>
    <icon>Thermometer</icon>
    <outputID>16</outputID>
    <outputType>Advanced</outputType>
    <outputLog>Enable</outputLog>
    <program>
    Fallback OFF If STemp < 76.5 Then ON If STemp > 79.0 Then OFF Min Time 002:00 Then OFF
    </program>



    </outlet>


    <outlet>
    <name>SChill12HP</name>
    <icon>Fan</icon>
    <outputID>17</outputID>
    <outputType>Advanced</outputType>
    <outputLog>Enable</outputLog>
    <program>
    Fallback OFF If STemp > RT+2.0 Then ON If STemp < RT+0.4 Then OFF Min Time 002:00 Then OFF
    </program>



    </outlet>


    <outlet>
    <name>SATO</name>
    <icon>Up/Down Arrows</icon>
    <outputID>18</outputID>
    <outputType>Advanced</outputType>
    <outputLog>Disable</outputLog>
    <program>
    Fallback OFF If Sw2 CLOSED Then ON If Sw2 OPEN Then OFF If Sw1 CLOSED Then OFF
    </program>



    </outlet>


    <outlet>
    <name>FLight</name>
    <icon>Light A</icon>
    <outputID>19</outputID>
    <outputType>Light</outputType>
    <outputLog>Enable</outputLog>
    <program>
    Fallback OFF Set OFF If Time 07:00 to 19:00 Then ON If FTemp > 81.0 Then OFF Min Time 030:00 Then OFF
    </program>



    </outlet>


    <outlet>
    <name>FPHead</name>
    <icon>Spigot</icon>
    <outputID>20</outputID>
    <outputType>Pump</outputType>
    <outputLog>Disable</outputLog>
    <program>
    Fallback OFF OSC 005:00/005:00/005:00 Then ON If FeedA 005 Then OFF
    </program>



    </outlet>


    <outlet>
    <name>_B3</name>
    <icon>Up/Down Arrows</icon>
    <outputID>21</outputID>
    <outputType>Advanced</outputType>
    <outputLog>Disable</outputLog>
    <program>If Sw3 CLOSED Then ON If Sw3 OPEN Then OFF</program>

    </outlet>


    <outlet>
    <name>_B4</name>
    <icon>Up/Down Arrows</icon>
    <outputID>22</outputID>
    <outputType>Advanced</outputType>
    <outputLog>Disable</outputLog>
    <program>
    Fallback ON OSC 005:00/005:00/000:00 Then ON If FeedA 000 Then OFF
    </program>



    </outlet>


    <outlet>
    <name>_B5</name>
    <icon>Thermometer</icon>
    <outputID>23</outputID>
    <outputType>Advanced</outputType>
    <outputLog>Disable</outputLog>
    <program>
    Fallback OFF If STemp < 77.0 Then ON If STemp > 78.0 Then OFF
    </program>



    </outlet>


    <outlet>
    <name>_B6</name>
    <icon>Thermometer</icon>
    <outputID>24</outputID>
    <outputType>Pump</outputType>
    <outputLog>Disable</outputLog>
    <program>
    Fallback OFF If STemp > 79.0 Then ON If STemp < 78.0 Then OFF
    </program>



    </outlet>


    <outlet>
    <name>_B7</name>
    <icon>Left/Right Arrows</icon>
    <outputID>25</outputID>
    <outputType>Pump</outputType>
    <outputLog>Enable</outputLog>
    <program>
    Fallback OFF If STemp > 80.0 Then ON If STemp < 79.0 Then OFF
    </program>



    </outlet>


    <outlet>
    <name>_B8</name>
    <icon>Left/Right Arrows</icon>
    <outputID>26</outputID>
    <outputType>Heater</outputType>
    <outputLog>Disable</outputLog>
    <program>
    Fallback OFF If SORP > 375 Then OFF If SORP < 360 Then ON
    </program>



    </outlet>


    <outlet>
    <name>FMainPump</name>
    <icon>Spigot</icon>
    <outputID>27</outputID>
    <outputType>Advanced</outputType>
    <outputLog>Disable</outputLog>
    <program>Fallback ON Set ON</program>

    </outlet>


    <outlet>
    <name>FHEAT_500_1</name>
    <icon>Up/Down Arrows</icon>
    <outputID>28</outputID>
    <outputType>Advanced</outputType>
    <outputLog>Enable</outputLog>
    <program>
    Fallback OFF If FTemp < 77.3 Then ON If FTemp > 79.0 Then OFF Min Time 002:00 Then OFF
    </program>



    </outlet>



    </outlets>


    <script>





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    Didn't need all your code. Just the two having problems. The issue with moon is the fallback OFF set OFF is after the time statement. It should be before it. The LT outlet is missing Fallback OFF Set OFF, which should be the first two lines.

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    Thanks for the simple fix, believe it or not, those commands were in the program before it stopped working. Not sure why it stopped but she is up and running again. Thank you again for your time!

    T. Ray

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