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    Kalk Reactor Dosing Min Time Off

    Hello,

    I’m trying to program my dosing pump to turn off if my pH is > 8.1 or if it has been running for more than 5 min. My scenario is to make sure the pump doesn’t stay on if the Kalk solution runs out. This is mostly to stabilize any pH swings at night when the lights are off. The Kalk reactor is attached to my ATO so it will refill during the day when the pH is more stable. The coding I’m using is below but the pump stays on. This is very new to me so any help is greatly appreciated.

    Fallback OFF
    If pH < 8.10 Then ON
    If pH > 8.11 Then OFF
    Min Time 002:00 Then OFF

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    Attached to a standalone ATO?

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    You should not use two conditional statements for the same probe like that. Instead use a Set and one If probe...

    Fallback OFF
    Set ON
    If pH > 8.11 Then OFF

    See this sticky for use of the When and If Error statements to handle “if If ran too long” part of your question. https://forum.neptunesystems.com/sho...-Firmware-4-52
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    This is attached to a tunze ATO.

    What about turning the doser pump off after 5 minutes in case there is no liquid left in the reactor?

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    Sorry just saw your link to the When statements. I’ll give it a go thanks!

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    The when cant be used directly in a standalone ATO. You need to do one of two things depending on whether you want it to retry on it's own after some time if it runs longer than 5 minutes, or if you want it to latch OFF until you manually intervene. X needs to be a value between the wattage drawn when the Tunze ie powered but not pumping and the power when pumping

    Self reset after 6 hours

    ATOstuck
    Set OFF
    If Output ATO Watts > X Then ON
    Defer 005:00 Then ON
    Min Time 360:00 Then ON

    Latch ON

    ATOstuck
    Set OFF
    If Output ATO Watts > X Then ON
    Defer 005:00 Then ON
    Defer 000:10 Then OFF
    When On > 000:02 Then ON


    ATO
    Fallback OFF
    Set ON
    If pH > 8.1 Then OFF
    If Output ATOstuck = ON Then OFF
    Min Time 030:00 Then OFF


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    If Output ATOstuck = ON Then ON




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    The ATO is set to always on since it has it own controller. This is just for the doser that’s attached to the Kalk reactor. I’m basically dosing two different ways from the Kalk reactor. One is the ATO which pushes out the Kalk solution when topping off then the other is a doser which adds the Kalk solution when the pH drops below 8.11 to help with the pH swings at night when lights are out. Sometimes though the liquid in the Kalk reactor is too low for the dose tube so it just keeps running. Eventually the ATO kicks on and then fills the Kalk reactor back up. I think I like this setup so I don’t add too much ATO water causing the salinity to drop. I can just slide the Kalk reactor back to Auto when the reactor is full. I’m probably over complicating it but it makes sense in my head

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