Tank Maint. programming...

[isomorphic85]

I'm looking to create a tank maint. program that shuts down pretty much all components when activated via a momentary push button on a breakout box input.

What do you guy's feel is the best way of going about this?

Can I use the same momentary button to also then trigger everything to come back on? or am I better off using another input to activate everything back on?

anyone have any example code of what I should add to each device that I want to turn off?

also is it possible to have alarms not respond when everything is powered down... for example my High limit sump switch activates etc.

again I really appreciate the help.

[MrT]

If you search on

Maintenance and

Maintenance without alarm

you should be able to get some help like I received in the past with similar questions.

[zombie]

Use a toggle. Momentary switches make things too complicated.

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[DavidNZ]

I have recently setup this exact thing and it works great!

I plan on putting a rocker switch in, but currently just use the Virtual Outlet and turn it on manually.

Here is what I have setup:

Create Maintenance VO with the code:

Set OFF
If MAINT CLOSED Then ON
Defer 000:02 Then ON


In any of the outputs I want off, add this line to the existing code (return pump):

If Output Maintenance = ON Then OFF

In any of the outputs I want on, add this line to existing code (Fuge light):

If Output Maintenance = ON Then ON

I have Radions, so I have set up a profile to set these to a nice light for working

If Output Maintenance = ON Then Daylight

I have also got my alarms and notifications on Virtual Outlets so I can manually disable them and not get alerts if I have assessed the issue and there is no issue, or just waiting on returning to normal and I have this in them to disable notifications when maintenance is on:

If Output Maintenance = ON Then OFF

I have also got a reminder notification setup incase I forget to turn everything back on:

On its own VO, I have the following code:

Set OFF
If Output Maintenance = ON Then ON
Defer 030:00 Then ON

And then this is in my Alert notifications Output:

If Output MaintRemind = ON Then ON

[isomorphic85]

excellent idea... thank you

[isomorphic85]

Use a toggle. Momentary switches make things too complicated.

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great idea for the toggle switches instead of momentary!!

[isomorphic85]

if i wanted to stagger certain devices from coming on would I simply add defer times to each outlet ?

for example.

I have 4 closed loop pumps for flow in the tank.

I like them to come on 1 at a time so I can verify they all start back up.

so for pump 1:

If Output Maintenance = ON Then OFF
Defer 000:02 Then ON

for pump 2:
If Output Maintenance = ON Then OFF
Defer 000:04 Then ON

for pump 3:

If Output Maintenance = ON Then OFF
Defer 000:06 Then ON

for pump 4 :

If Output Maintenance = ON Then OFF
Defer 000:08 Then ON

[zombie]

You can, but note that these defers will apply to all other programming they have as well.

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[isomorphic85]

is there a way to keep it specific to a virtual outlet or not easily

[zombie]

is there a way to keep it specific to a virtual outlet or not easily

You would need to make a separate virtual outlet for anything you want an extra defer for that isnt global to the rest of that outlets programming. It's not really hard, just tedious and easy to make a mistake.

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[isomorphic85]

You would need to make a separate virtual outlet for anything you want an extra defer for that isnt global to the rest of that outlets programming. It's not really hard, just tedious and easy to make a mistake.

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Thank you again, all of your help really is greatly appreciated!

[isomorphic85]

I have recently setup this exact thing and it works great!

I plan on putting a rocker switch in, but currently just use the Virtual Outlet and turn it on manually.

Here is what I have setup:

Create Maintenance VO with the code:

Set OFF
If MAINT CLOSED Then ON
Defer 000:02 Then ON


In any of the outputs I want off, add this line to the existing code (return pump):

If Output Maintenance = ON Then OFF

In any of the outputs I want on, add this line to existing code (Fuge light):

If Output Maintenance = ON Then ON

I have Radions, so I have set up a profile to set these to a nice light for working

If Output Maintenance = ON Then Daylight

I have also got my alarms and notifications on Virtual Outlets so I can manually disable them and not get alerts if I have assessed the issue and there is no issue, or just waiting on returning to normal and I have this in them to disable notifications when maintenance is on:

If Output Maintenance = ON Then OFF

I have also got a reminder notification setup incase I forget to turn everything back on:

On its own VO, I have the following code:

Set OFF
If Output Maintenance = ON Then ON
Defer 030:00 Then ON

And then this is in my Alert notifications Output:

If Output MaintRemind = ON Then ON

i've got everything working with the exception of the alarms and notifications on virtual outlets...

i'm unclear as to how you set this portion up for the alarms?

[zombie]

See post #4

i've got everything working with the exception of the alarms and notifications on virtual outlets...

i'm unclear as to how you set this portion up for the alarms?

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[isomorphic85]

I went through post #4 several times and i've having a mental blockage here.

I can't seem to put together how you would create a virtual outlet for the alarms portion?

or is he just adding the statement to the coding of the alarms

If Output Maintenance = ON Then OFF

[zombie]

I went through post #4 several times and i've having a mental blockage here.

I can't seem to put together how you would create a virtual outlet for the alarms portion?

or is he just adding the statement to the coding of the alarms

If Output Maintenance = ON Then OFF

It's another VO

MaintRemind
Set OFF
If Output Maintenance = ON Then ON
Defer 030:00 Then ON

Email
(Existing code)
If Output MaintRemind = ON Then ON

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[DavidNZ]

I went through post #4 several times and i've having a mental blockage here.

I can't seem to put together how you would create a virtual outlet for the alarms portion?

or is he just adding the statement to the coding of the alarms

If Output Maintenance = ON Then OFF

Is it the Maintenance reminder alert, or the parameter alerts that you don't understand?

If it is the Maintenance one, then Zombie is right. If it is the other parameters, I have a Virtual Outlet for the parameter, EG SUMPHIGH (High SUMP water level) or PHHIGH (High PH) and just put If Output Maintenance = ON Then OFF at the end. For example, this is my SUMPHIGH programming which will not notify me for 15 mins when it goes high (to avoid alerts in feed mode) but not run if the maintenance program is active:

Set OFF
If SUMPHI CLOSED Then ON
Defer 015:00 Then ON
If Output Maintenance = ON Then OFF

[zombie]

Is it the Maintenance reminder alert, or the parameter alerts that you don't understand?

If it is the Maintenance one, then Zombie is right. If it is the other parameters, I have a Virtual Outlet for the parameter, EG SUMPHIGH (High SUMP water level) or PHHIGH (High PH) and just put If Output Maintenance = ON Then OFF at the end. For example, this is my SUMPHIGH programming which will not notify me for 15 mins when it goes high (to avoid alerts in feed mode) but not run if the maintenance program is active:

Set OFF
If SUMPHI CLOSED Then ON
Defer 015:00 Then ON
If Output Maintenance = ON Then OFF

There is an even easier way. This covers all your bases and let's you reduce the defer time as well.

Set OFF
If SUMPHI CLOSED Then ON
If Output Return = OFF Then OFF
Defer 005:00 Then ON

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