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    One-time alarm notification

    I want to get notified if my ORP goes over 325, but I don't need to get repeatedly notified every hour and don't want it to come in the middle of the night. Would creating a virtual outlet with the following program work?

    VO ORP_Alarm
    If ORP > 325 Then ON
    If Time 22:00 to 08:00 Then OFF
    Defer 10:00 then OFF

    In the Alarm Outlet program:

    If Output ORP_Alarm = ON Then ON

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sleepydoc View Post
    I want to get notified if my ORP goes over 325, but I don't need to get repeatedly notified every hour and don't want it to come in the middle of the night. Would creating a virtual outlet with the following program work?

    VO ORP_Alarm
    If ORP > 325 Then ON
    If Time 22:00 to 08:00 Then OFF
    Defer 10:00 then OFF

    In the Alarm Outlet program:

    If Output ORP_Alarm = ON Then ON
    That will not give you a single alarm. You need two VOs to do that

    VO ORP_Alarm
    Set OFF
    If ORP > 325 Then ON
    If Time 22:00 to 08:00 Then OFF
    If Output StopAlarm = ON Then OFF

    StopAlarm
    Set OFF
    If Output ORP_Alarm = ON Then ON
    Defer 001:00 Then ON
    Min Time 840:00 Then ON

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    Here are the programs I just set up:
    Outlet: EmailAlm
    Set OFF
    If Tmp > 84.0 Then ON
    If Tmp < 77.0 Then ON
    If ALD1 CLOSED Then ON
    If ALD2 CLOSED Then ON
    If ALD3 CLOSED Then ON
    If Output FlowMonitor_ = ON Then ON
    If Output STOPALARM = ON Then OFF

    Outlet STOPALARM
    Set OFF
    If Output EmailAlm = ON Then ON
    Defer 001:00 Then ON
    Min Time 840:00 Then ON

    The status of outlet stopalarm is "on".
    Shouldn't it be Off as the emailalm outlet is status Off?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hkgar View Post
    Here are the programs I just set up:
    Outlet: EmailAlm
    Set OFF
    If Tmp > 84.0 Then ON
    If Tmp < 77.0 Then ON
    If ALD1 CLOSED Then ON
    If ALD2 CLOSED Then ON
    If ALD3 CLOSED Then ON
    If Output FlowMonitor_ = ON Then ON
    If Output STOPALARM = ON Then OFF

    Outlet STOPALARM
    Set OFF
    If Output EmailAlm = ON Then ON
    Defer 001:00 Then ON
    Min Time 840:00 Then ON

    The status of outlet stopalarm is "on".
    Shouldn't it be Off as the emailalm outlet is status Off?
    You need to change your order. The lowest priority alarms you want to receive only once should be at the top and high priority alarms should be at the bottom. StopAlarm will remain in the ON state for 840 minutes after an alarm was triggered the way you have it programmed and will supress any alarm the way you have it programmed.

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    My question is why is the stopalarm status ON. I just set up the program and the emailalm has not not bee in status ON. Nothing has occurred to trigger an email

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    Quote Originally Posted by hkgar View Post
    Here are the programs I just set up:
    Outlet: EmailAlm
    Set OFF
    If Tmp > 84.0 Then ON
    If Tmp < 77.0 Then ON
    If ALD1 CLOSED Then ON
    If ALD2 CLOSED Then ON
    If ALD3 CLOSED Then ON
    If Output FlowMonitor_ = ON Then ON
    If Output STOPALARM = ON Then OFF

    Outlet STOPALARM
    Set OFF
    If Output EmailAlm = ON Then ON
    Defer 001:00 Then ON
    Min Time 840:00 Then ON

    The status of outlet stopalarm is "on".
    Shouldn't it be Off as the emailalm outlet is status Off?
    This is a REALLY BAD thing to do. This will suppress ALL alarm notifications for 14 hours after any alarm condition becomes true, even if that single alarm condition is short-lived. This could for example, prevent the system from sending an alert about critical issue such as a leak or high temperature.
    Please do not send me PMs with technical questions or requesting assistance - use the forums for Apex help. PM me ONLY if the matter is of a private or personal nature. Thanks.

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    THanks for the help, Zombie.

    hkgar: Russ is right. THere are some alarms you want to know about immediately (i.e. leak detector) Others can wait a bit. You have your system set up so every alarm gets turned off for 14 hours after just one has triggered, so if your temp goes below 77º for a minute you never find out about the return pump being fried.

    I have my low priority alarms at the top of the list followed by an “If time...” statement so I don’t get notified at 2AM that the ATO reservoir is low. Below the “if time” statement are the high priority alarms I want to know about right away.

    If you only want a single notification for some of your alarms, then set up virtual outlets like Zombie outlined.

    As for why your Stopalarm outlet is on, my guess is that one of your alarm trigger outputs was on long enough to trigger it. One confusing thing with the Apex is that it polls the sensors and outlets more frequently than it logs them. (I believe it polls the outlets every second. Logging is determined by what you have it set to.) On top of that, fusion updates are slightly delayed. Logging directly into the apex controller instead of through fusion gives quicker updates.

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