2 WP40's

[Gerry0625]

Ok I have had these 2 pumps up and running off my Apex for about 1 month now. Here is my programming and profiles.
So the RampUp profile starts off my day with both pumps off and both ramping up to 100% over 60mins. The "left" profiles runs on 1 channel while the "right" profile runs on the other channel in sync, this creates a nice wave motion left to right in my tank. Long_L and Long_R Profiles do the same thing only with a longer slower wave. When Surge_L is on then the Calm profile is running on the right side and when the Surge_R profile is running on the right the left side is running the Calm profile. I use this surge profile to flush all the crap out the sides of the tank and get it all into the water column. The tank then goes back into a nice wave left to right for 2 hrs. RampDn starts at 100% and goes down to 0%. from there the tank goes into Dusk_L and Dusk_R which gives me a very calm back and fourth. and the processes then starts over again. I have it setup so when ever my tank gets fed my pumps turn off for 3mins then turn back on which is the defer command. I need more profile ideas so I can fill in the gaps.
Thanks for taking the time to go through my setup....

VSP1: Left WP40
Fallback ON
Set ON
If Time 07:00 to 08:00 Then RampUp
If Time 08:00 to 12:00 Then Left
If Time 12:00 to 18:00 Then Long_L
If Time 18:00 to 18:30 Then Surge_L
If Time 18:30 to 19:00 Then Calm
If Time 19:00 to 21:00 Then Left
If Time 21:00 to 22:00 Then RampDn
If Time 22:00 to 07:00 Then Dusk_L
If Outlet V-Feed = ON Then OFF
Defer 003:00 Then ON

VSP2: Right WP40
Fallback ON
Set ON
If Time 07:00 to 08:00 Then RampUp
If Time 08:00 to 12:00 Then Right
If Time 12:00 to 18:00 Then Long_R
If Time 18:00 to 18:30 Then Calm
If Time 18:30 to 19:00 Then Surge_R
If Time 19:00 to 21:00 Then Right
If Time 21:00 to 22:00 Then RampDn
If Time 22:00 to 07:00 Then Dusk_R
If Outlet V-Feed = ON Then OFF
Defer 003:00 Then ON

Profiles:

Left:
type> pump
minIntensity> 0
maxIntensity> 100
sync> Disable
div10> Enable
intOffTime> 0
OnTime> 12
OffTime> 12

Right
type> pump
minIntensity> 0
maxIntensity> 100
sync> Enable
div10> Enable
intOffTime> 12
OnTime> 12
OffTime> 0

RampUp:
type> ramp
StartIntensity> 0
EndIntensity> 100
ramp time 60 mins

RampDn:
type> ramp
Start Intensity> 100
End Intensity> 0
ramp time 60 mins

Long_L:
type> pump
minIntensity> 30
maxIntensity> 100
sync> Disable
div10> Enable
intOffTime> 0
OnTime> 15
OffTime> 15

Long_R
type> pump
minIntensity> 30
maxIntensity> 100
sync> Enable
div10> Enable
intOffTime> 15
OnTime> 15
OffTime> 0

Dusk_R:
type> pump
minIntensity> 0
maxIntensity> 30
sync> Disable
div10> Enable
intOffTime> 10
OnTime> 10
OffTime> 0

Dusk_L:
type> pump
minIntensity> 0
maxIntensity> 30
sync> Enable
div10> Enable
intOffTime> 0
OnTime> 10
OffTime> 10

Surge_R:
type> pump
minIntensity> 30
maxIntensity> 100
sync> Disable
div10> Diable
intOffTime> 0
OnTime> 10
OffTime> 2

Surge_L:
type> pump
minIntensity> 30
maxIntensity> 100
sync> Disable
div10> Disable
intOffTime> 0
OnTime> 10
OffTime> 2

Calm:
type> pump
minIntensity> 0
maxIntensity> 0
sync> Disable
div10> Disable
intOffTime> 0
OnTime> 0
OffTime> 0

Outlet V-Feed: (This is my AFS)
Fallback OFF
Set OFF
If Time 07:30 to 07:31 Then ON
If Time 07:34 to 07:35 Then ON
If Time 12:00 to 12:01 Then ON
If Time 12:04 to 12:05 Then ON
If Time 20:00 to 20:01 Then ON
If ORP < 350 Then OFF
If Swx4_1 CLOSED Then OFF

[RussM]

IIRC, the Jebaos do not operate at speeds below about 35%. You should modify the two Ramp profiles accordingly.

[Gerry0625]

IIRC, the Jebaos do not operate at speeds below about 35%. You should modify the two Ramp profiles accordingly.

at 25% my Jebaos turn off completely at 30% they start to move water and I found this to be the lowest setting they respond to.

I will update my profiles and see if i notice a difference.

Can you over drive the pumps i have looked a few time at my fusion and seen my pumps at 101% ?

[cypherljk]

I had to do the same thing with my Reef Radiance lights. They operate only from 40 - 75.5 ( 4 - 7.5 ) and I had to adjust my amounts so that 40 = 0 and 75 = 100 and scale accordingly. It just gives you less steps to from 0 to full intensity.

[Gerry0625]

until I have time to figure out more wave profiles i have adjusted my 2 WP40's as follows.

VSP1: Left WP40
Fallback ON
Set ON
If Time 07:00 to 08:00 Then RampUp
If Time 08:00 to 09:00 Then Left
If Time 09:00 to 10:00 Then Long_L
If Time 10:00 to 11:30 Then Surge_L
If Time 11:30 to 12:00 Then Calm
If Time 12:00 to 13:00 Then Left
If Time 13:00 to 14:00 Then RampUp
If Time 14:00 to 15:00 Then Left
If Time 15:00 to 16:00 Then Long_L
If Time 16:00 to 17:30 Then Surge_L
If Time 17:30 to 18:00 Then Calm
If Time 18:00 to 19:00 Then Left
If Time 19:00 to 22:00 Then RampDn
If Time 22:00 to 07:00 Then Dusk_L
If Outlet V-Feed = ON Then OFF
Defer 003:00 Then ON


VSP2: Right WP40
Fallback ON
Set ON
If Time 07:00 to 08:00 Then RampUp
If Time 08:00 to 09:00 Then Right
If Time 09:00 to 10:00 Then Long_R
If Time 10:00 to 11:30 Then Calm
If Time 11:30 to 12:00 Then Surge_R
If Time 12:00 to 13:00 Then Right
If Time 13:00 to 14:00 Then RampUp
If Time 14:00 to 15:00 Then Right
If Time 15:00 to 16:00 Then Long_R
If Time 16:00 to 17:30 Then Calm
If Time 17:30 to 18:00 Then Surge_R
If Time 18:00 to 19:00 Then Right
If Time 19:00 to 22:00 Then RampDn
If Time 22:00 to 07:00 Then Dusk_R
If Outlet V-Feed = ON Then OFF
Defer 003:00 Then ON

All profiles stayed the same as above.

[MooGizz]

i may be missing something but how are you controlling ramp and % rates on the wp40's? i have them as well and cant.

[Gerry0625]

i may be missing something but how are you controlling ramp and % rates on the wp40's? i have them as well and cant.

Check this out: http://www.fish-street.com/apex__ghl...ch_string=apex
I bought the WP40's with the dual controller and i simply unplug the power supply from the dual contriller and plug it into the apex to jebao controller then plug both WP40's into the Apex Jebao controller then run a Ethernet cable from the apex Jebao controller to your apex Variable speed port. Each port controls 2 pumps. now program the corresponding variable speed ports and watch your pumps work...

[MooGizz]

ahh ok. i was completely confused there for a minute. thanks for the info and link

[simpletty|]

I have a small tank and one rw 4 that I want to run. I used the profiles and just copy and pasted the times for one one pump. I have no pump working at all

[simpletty|]

Fallback ON
Set ON
If Time 07:00 to 08:00 Then RampUp
If Time 08:00 to 09:00 Then Left
If Time 09:00 to 10:00 Then Long_L
If Time 10:00 to 11:30 Then Surge_L
If Time 11:30 to 12:00 Then Calm
If Time 12:00 to 13:00 Then Left
If Time 13:00 to 14:00 Then RampUp
If Time 14:00 to 15:00 Then Left
If Time 15:00 to 16:00 Then Long_L
If Time 16:00 to 17:30 Then Surge_L
If Time 17:30 to 18:00 Then Calm
If Time 18:00 to 19:00 Then Left
If Time 19:00 to 22:00 Then RampDn
If Time 22:00 to 07:00 Then Dusk_L
If Outlet VFEED = ON Then OFF
Defer 003:00 Then ON
I used the left pump profiles, adjusting the minimum intensity to 35% since the pump does not run any lower than that percentage setting. I am using the original adapter, not a 24v since I run one pump. Without any programming and the pump plugged into the controller it does run. Is there anyting that I am missing?

[zombie]

Did you try the program in the other varspd port, or plug the pump into the other plug?

You might be an engineer if...You have no life and can PROVE it mathematically.

[simpletty|]

i tried the plugging it into the other port, no dice. ill try copying it to the other varspd port and see if anything happens

[simpletty|]

/Error: line 10 - Expected ON or OFF OR PFx // If Time 07:00 to 08:00 Then RampUpT //Error: line 11 - Expected ON or OFF OR PFx // If Time 08:00 to 09:00 Then Left: //Error: line 12 - Expected ON or OFF OR PFx // If Time 09:00 to 10:

these are the errors i get when i try to copy this over to the other varspd controls

[RussM]

If you are using Fusion, use the copy button.

[simpletty|]

If you are using Fusion, use the copy button.

copied all the programs over to each varsp 1-4 tried each cord/varspeed combo. nothing works. probably have a bad unit. I think its refund and forget it time. Dont have time for cheap junk

[zombie]

Im fairly disappointed in those units. There is a serious lack of QA/QC on those. Its not as clean looking, but you can build a torx harness.

You might be an engineer if...You have no life and can PROVE it mathematically.

[RussM]

copied all the programs over to each varsp 1-4 tried each cord/varspeed combo. nothing works. probably have a bad unit. I think its refund and forget it time. Dont have time for cheap junk

Are you talking about the Fishstreet interface gizmo?

[bescher]

Ok I have had these 2 pumps up and running off my Apex for about 1 month now. Here is my programming and profiles.
So the RampUp profile starts off my day with both pumps off and both ramping up to 100% over 60mins. The "left" profiles runs on 1 channel while the "right" profile runs on the other channel in sync, this creates a nice wave motion left to right in my tank. Long_L and Long_R Profiles do the same thing only with a longer slower wave. When Surge_L is on then the Calm profile is running on the right side and when the Surge_R profile is running on the right the left side is running the Calm profile. I use this surge profile to flush all the crap out the sides of the tank and get it all into the water column. The tank then goes back into a nice wave left to right for 2 hrs. RampDn starts at 100% and goes down to 0%. from there the tank goes into Dusk_L and Dusk_R which gives me a very calm back and fourth. and the processes then starts over again. I have it setup so when ever my tank gets fed my pumps turn off for 3mins then turn back on which is the defer command. I need more profile ideas so I can fill in the gaps.
Thanks for taking the time to go through my setup....

VSP1: Left WP40
Fallback ON
Set ON
If Time 07:00 to 08:00 Then RampUp
If Time 08:00 to 12:00 Then Left
If Time 12:00 to 18:00 Then Long_L
If Time 18:00 to 18:30 Then Surge_L
If Time 18:30 to 19:00 Then Calm
If Time 19:00 to 21:00 Then Left
If Time 21:00 to 22:00 Then RampDn
If Time 22:00 to 07:00 Then Dusk_L
If Outlet V-Feed = ON Then OFF
Defer 003:00 Then ON

VSP2: Right WP40
Fallback ON
Set ON
If Time 07:00 to 08:00 Then RampUp
If Time 08:00 to 12:00 Then Right
If Time 12:00 to 18:00 Then Long_R
If Time 18:00 to 18:30 Then Calm
If Time 18:30 to 19:00 Then Surge_R
If Time 19:00 to 21:00 Then Right
If Time 21:00 to 22:00 Then RampDn
If Time 22:00 to 07:00 Then Dusk_R
If Outlet V-Feed = ON Then OFF
Defer 003:00 Then ON

Profiles:

Left:
type> pump
minIntensity> 0
maxIntensity> 100
sync> Disable
div10> Enable
intOffTime> 0
OnTime> 12
OffTime> 12

Right
type> pump
minIntensity> 0
maxIntensity> 100
sync> Enable
div10> Enable
intOffTime> 12
OnTime> 12
OffTime> 0

RampUp:
type> ramp
StartIntensity> 0
EndIntensity> 100
ramp time 60 mins

RampDn:
type> ramp
Start Intensity> 100
End Intensity> 0
ramp time 60 mins

Long_L:
type> pump
minIntensity> 30
maxIntensity> 100
sync> Disable
div10> Enable
intOffTime> 0
OnTime> 15
OffTime> 15

Long_R
type> pump
minIntensity> 30
maxIntensity> 100
sync> Enable
div10> Enable
intOffTime> 15
OnTime> 15
OffTime> 0

Dusk_R:
type> pump
minIntensity> 0
maxIntensity> 30
sync> Disable
div10> Enable
intOffTime> 10
OnTime> 10
OffTime> 0

Dusk_L:
type> pump
minIntensity> 0
maxIntensity> 30
sync> Enable
div10> Enable
intOffTime> 0
OnTime> 10
OffTime> 10

Surge_R:
type> pump
minIntensity> 30
maxIntensity> 100
sync> Disable
div10> Diable
intOffTime> 0
OnTime> 10
OffTime> 2

Surge_L:
type> pump
minIntensity> 30
maxIntensity> 100
sync> Disable
div10> Disable
intOffTime> 0
OnTime> 10
OffTime> 2

Calm:
type> pump
minIntensity> 0
maxIntensity> 0
sync> Disable
div10> Disable
intOffTime> 0
OnTime> 0
OffTime> 0

Outlet V-Feed: (This is my AFS)
Fallback OFF
Set OFF
If Time 07:30 to 07:31 Then ON
If Time 07:34 to 07:35 Then ON
If Time 12:00 to 12:01 Then ON
If Time 12:04 to 12:05 Then ON
If Time 20:00 to 20:01 Then ON
If ORP < 350 Then OFF
If Swx4_1 CLOSED Then OFF

I understand parts of this. I know where the profiles go but where does the rest of it go? Into outlet or profile and what do you mean by color?
I also know that I can only set my wp20's to 35% minimum and I only want max intensity at 50% but I don't understand where everything goes. I do have the Jabeo apex controller
I appreciate all the help I can get. I don't understand the book when it comes to programming. ( that was my downside in college back in 1985 with fortran and cobol fortunately I had roommate that helped and I helped him in hardware configurations
Thanks

[zombie]

They go in the associated varspd outlet. Ex if you have the jebao converter box in V1/V2 then one pumo goes into varspd1 and the other pump goes into varspd2

You might be an engineer if...You have no life and can PROVE it mathematically.

[bescher]

That I understand that and have done that I was talking about the code some of goes into the profiles and some goes into the outlets ( V1/V2)
that is what wanted to know
thanks for your response

[zombie]

In post #1, the part he calls VSP1 goes into varspd1, VSP2 goes into varspd2, V-feed is a virtual outlet that you could keep or leave out, and everything else is a profile. Keep in mind that the profiles need to be named and filled out before you do the code for the varspd outlets.

You might be an engineer if...You have no life and can PROVE it mathematically.

[bescher]

So I would need to make a profile for each item then? Such as rampur, rampdn, longl, longR, Dusk_L, Dusk_R and so on I can't put all the rights into one profile and all the left into one I need to give a name to each one separately and make a profile for each separately
thanks

[stubble88]

Send Failed

//Error: line 3 - Expected ON or OFF OR PFx // If Time 07:00 to 08:00 Then RampUpm //Error: line 4 - Expected ON or OFF OR PFx // If Time 08:00 to 09:00 Then Leftn //Error: line 5 - Expected ON or OFF OR PFx // If Time 09:00 to 10:00

[RussM]

It means that you don't have profiles having those exact names.

[stubble88]

did that
still not working